Salam Idul Adha kepada semua ahli forum ini.

Wah, banyak juga si Jamain tau pasal keluarga Rantau-Dumaring. Seriously, I find this so-called an attempt 'to un-root your root' -- is so fascinating. Saya ndak tau (dan mungkin tidak pernah terfikir) -- yang Rantau pernah ikut Mat Salleh. I went to this seminar few months ago.. and one of the historians was presenting his finding on Mat Salleh's history based on oral tradition. He did mention about the invovlement of some key figures from the Ranau Dusunic community -- and little did I know... nenek moyang kita pun part of the untold history.

Saya setuju dengan cadangan webmaster. May be we should meet up one of these days. Sambil minum kopi O, boleh juga bah kan bincang-bincang. Exchange info and notes, kan.

actually the fact that Rantau was involved with Paduka Mat Salleh was revealed in 'Sejarah Lingkudau' dan Rem memperkuatkan fakta tersebut bila 'terjumpa' fakta dari penceramah.Sya rasa those in Sabah klu ada masa dpt jumpa2,bincang2 psl hal-hal berbangkit dari forum keluarga,manatau dpt good idea.Sya di sanandung ni terima msg saja [hehehe].Lagi pun tu Presiden pun suda jemput sari kopi 'o'=> kopi tiam! sina kou boh!

referring to Rem saying 'un-root the roots',i like to re-term that to 'uncover' the roots.Reason being that very few of the family members care about some things or matters in the past,the past always bring about -ve assumptions but to me personally,its all the +ve factors that matters the -ve ones follows,the normal cycle of assumptive reasonings.ba,klu tida barapa setuju kasi taru apa2 hia sini. p.s sina kou boh!

aminazamain wrote:referring to Rem saying 'un-root the roots',i like to re-term that to 'uncover' the roots.Reason being that very few of the family members care about some things or matters in the past,the past always bring about -ve assumptions but to me personally,its all the +ve factors that matters the -ve ones follows,the normal cycle of assumptive reasonings.ba,klu tida barapa setuju kasi taru apa2 hia sini. p.s sina kou boh!

Bila saya tulis 'un-root' -- actually I didn't give it much thought. The term just, naturally, popped into my mind. It isn't necessarily associated with either positive or negative conotations. But thanks for pointing that out. Correction, noted.

Putting aside the semantic issue, yes I agree with Azamain that very few of the family members are interested to learn more about their own past (i.e. history, roots, etc). I guess the reason for this... is because they don't see the values in it. I had been travelling... far away from the family... almost my entire life. Until I recently settle down in KK.

Masa tinggal jauh-jauh itulah.. you see the (sentimental) values of your root. Suddenly it becomes significant to really know and understand where you come from, and the detailed of your family history. Probably, because when you are alone in some alien places -- the only thing that can connect you with your (long-distance) family is the sense of 'knowing your root'.

That was how I really felt -- all those years.. when I was living alone far from the family. Few months ago, I actually happened to communicate (through cyber) with another RD family member, who had been living in KL for years (may she still is). And she also was very sentimental (and was really interested) with these family history matters. May be I should re-track her down.. and ask her to join this forum. If she hasn't already joined in.

Tobpinai kou ngaawi,

Azamain , sina tokou saawi awi boh!

Rem, unroot the root, ok bah itu, an act of untangling the tangled root ie roots yang selama ini tidak tersari

Bah those in KK give me a call at 0128283003 kalau mau sari kopi "O". Siou Gamain apa boleh buat hilod kogia Ki IL. Anak Wahab Rasman(turunan kansaring/Dumaring boh)kawin i think sometime next week, why not make a point to attend and ambik kesempatan binsang binsang. Kalau saya belum berangkat ke Afrika untuk kerja konusltansi, insyaAllah saya akan hadir.

Hjramli
sina oku boh! om sina tokou ngawi boh om sina kou boh!

salam semua.sya lagi ni! ni sya mau lumpat sedikit psl keluarga punya cerita ni.Sekitar akhir tahun 1980an [around 85-89] ada usaha dari pihak muda2[dulu la] utk. membuat family gathering bermula dgn hanya yg di lingkudau dulu barula menapak cari yang lebih besar lagi dan ianya telah berjaya,di dukung oleh En.Hasbi Jumin dan En.Husin udin,nasib baik tu time tiada angkat bambu byk2 bikin kem,rumah TSPGG di silou la yang jadi mangsa.Sikit2 pun 'ramai' juga rasanya.Tahun berikutnya,klu tida silap la,ada di buat di Lingkudau[mana lagi!],tu panggung jadi mangsa!Ni time agak berjaya mengumpul mana yg surang mampu.Continuity dari series of gatherings ini ialah usahasama,yg sya ingat Pacik Sarun Rashman kasi kebenaran pakai kolam ikan dia,kunun2 kasi can piara ikan.Usaha lain,banting tulang tlg mengomot,kasi clear sulap etc.Yg kulam tu pula,dlm 1 bulan ada saja yg tingu pada masa tu juga la ramai yg dpt peluang berniaga individu dan kerja ramai ahli yang berterabur,usaha utk persatuan keluarga pun terbengkalai dan tidak sempat register dgn ROS.Beberapa tahun kemudian timbul platform ini,tu semangat pun dtg balik.Secara peribadi,sya masih yakin ia akan berjalan mengikut yang sepatutnya,byk. saluran ba.Cuma yg. silam jadi panduan,yg. 'muda2' dulu pun masih ada tenaga kali.Blakang tabir jgn. cerita nanti tu tuan Hj. kita mara! insyallah dgn pengendalian yg sesuai,semuanya akan dpt di laksanakan.[bukan tiada pengalaman!] . ba ,kumin la apa2. p.s-secara ringkas: usaha tidak pernah abis dari generasi ke generasi.

Heehee Gamain, ngam itu kau bilang usaha yang tidak habis habis, macam Tun M punya "perjuangan yang belum selesai".

Tapi insyAllah dengan kamurang punya keyakinan dan semangat yang dikira muda muda ni, saya yakin kita akan berjaya. Tingu itu si Kurudung punya usaha pun saya beliur sudah, syiok tingu tingu prospek masa hadapan kita.

Ya, siapa yang ada di KK tu kita usaha perjumpaan kedai kopi bah dulu. Itu saya boleh belanjalah...walaupun sudah pinsin.

Make it work brothers and sisters!!

hjramli

Bagus juga cadangan hj ramli, buli juga bincang-bincang secara tidak formal, gerenti ada hasil punya. kalau tiada idea, sekurang-kurangnya dapat kenal satu sama lain kalau yg belum kenal, yg sudah kenal merapatkan hubungan kekeluargaan.

Masalah sebenar yg merenggangkan hubungan kekeluargaan adalah kurangnya interaksi antara ahli keluaraga akibat komitmen masing-masing dan juga masalah jarak.

call saja hj kalau ada sessi minum kopi.

Iya bah, saya pun setuju. For a start, bagus juga kita jumpa-jumpa, minum kopi dan bincang-bincang. Mula-mula, ringan-ringan dulu bah, kan. Then I'm sure, (lepas kenal-kenal) we'll eventually gain a momentum. Nanti dari sana -- bolehlah kita move forward. Untuk bikin kita punya dokumentasi.

Yang lain di sini, nampak macam sudah saling mengenali antara satu sama lain. Saya cuma kenal di Jamain saja nih. But I'm not sure if he still remembers me. Maklumlah, I'm the least known in the Sulaiman-Dambul Dumaring family. Everyone seems to know all my elder brothers and sisters -- but (more often than not) nobody notices me until I identify myself.

This is my phone no: 013-8867955 (Rem). Saya kerja di KK, tapi tinggal di Tuaran. Yes I know.. a bit displaced from the urban civilisation. Tapi kalau ada sesi minum-minum (tambah lagi kalau kana balanja.. ha ha ha ha!) -- bila-bila saja bah.

We, the SD Dumaring family, will be having our annual gathering during the X'mas break. And, we'll also host one of my nephew's wedding reception. A belated one. But I can't remember the exact date. Will get back on that later. Everyone.. the members of the clan.. is invited. Di rumah kakak saya (Lungkiam) di Kituntul.

saya pun takajut, ada anak2 SD saya tidak kenal. Saya ingat C Girik yg paling bongsu.

Kalau tiada blog sampai bila pun nda kenal kali, itupun secara tidak sengaja bila saya google Rantau Dumaring baru saya sedar yang ada pulak ahli keluaraga yang tidak saya kenal.

Apalagi hj, bila mau belanja kami ni?

Nunu gia kosusa mamalanja kopi O, igitan mantad kopi O dokuyu mantad walai boh hehehe.

Hari Minggu ni Anak Wahab kawin, itu Kansaring punya turunan. 27th di Silou tempat Dr Lungkiam, saya ingat anak si Faridah punya majlislah tu.

Kalau during office hours kamu semua karaja. Lunch time apa macam start jam 12. Kita jumpa di Sabah Golf & Country Club dekat Taman Tun Fuad. Cari hari, panggil sudara-sudara untuk buat kita punya first gathering. Si Anuar Ghani Vice President itu club mah, saya member saja.

Bah tolong kasi input...tudu bangat siapa yg tiada di KK.

hjramli

aisey,Rem baca kau punya blog baru sya tau siapa anda sebenarnya,pengkhianat identiti![hehehe,mudah2an kau paham].Dulu eluhoi-luhoi skrg,di dalam keras dari intan! Best and informative,that's what you are. Tnhj:Aisey,tu blanja2 mcm sya dengki2 tau ni [hahaha],anyway,mudah2an dpt daa idea-idea memberansangkan klu dpt berjumpa-jumpa tapi jgn lupa kasi msg.

Gamain, Jangan susah nanti saya di KL sari sama kau, belanja kopi O. Bah yang lain tolong datang kawin anak si Wahab 21hb Dis ni. Kita sembang nanti.

Jamain, itu la bah kau ni. Pura-pura lagi ndak tau!

Dulu kau bilang eluhoi-luhoi, sekarang lain sudah. Dari dulu bah memang sudah ada 'tanduk'. Tapi masa itu, tanduk belum tumbuh cukup panjang. BTW, kalau balik Sabah, jangan lupa menyinggah sini KK kio.

Beberapa bulan dulu, saya ada contact-contact sama si Ramsiyah D Amir <email dia: ramsya@gmail.com>. If she hasn't yet joined this forum, probably the moderator can send an invitation.

Hope to see you guys this weekend. Kalau saya sempat pigi majlis kahwin anak Wahab la. Thinking of spending the weekend di kampung. Tapi malas betul mau drive...

rem,

Ramsiyah is contactable at warisanrd@yahoogroups.com. Perhaps you could join us there. Will invite you in there. Surely will get Ramsiyah to be in this forum.

hjramli